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Hey, what happened to the guys?

October 5th, 2007

We finally start talking about actually doing some things — guys are doers, not talkers, right? — like drinking beer and volunteering, and suddenly they all have their eyes closed and their heads on their desks, as if this is nap time.

We have a social movement building here. We’re going to need more linear, unimaginative, structured, rigid thinkers like me to offset the notoriously creative, inventive, ingenious ideas from the female side. And to get us moving rather than just talking … and talking … and talking.

Oops, was that sexist? I apologize. I was using stereotypes to make a larger point. We need male thinkers and doers to complement the welcome number of women who are ready to go.

Please, guys. Please.

32 responses so far ↓

MK // Oct 5, 2007 at 12:52 pm

Hmmmm…I took minutes away from my doings in the kitchen and laundry room to read and reply. (Hope I don’t get the two sets of ingredients mixed up!). It seems that I am always multi-tasking before heading out to bring home the bacon. Is this also sexist?

And sometimes I do read without replying. Hoping there are others who do the same without feeling compelled to interject two cents’ worth.

Always glad to read more…and become wiser still.

Must run. One of my timers is dinging.

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 12:52 pm

That was a tad bit sexist, but we’ll let it slide. Come on, guys, get a move on! Action, action, we want action!

Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 1:51 pm

Men are all mouth no action.

Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 1:52 pm

maybe that does not sound good

Joe // Oct 5, 2007 at 1:58 pm

Feel free to clarify, Annette.

Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:04 pm

maybe I better not. I am always saying the wrong thing. I will leave this be. I am so glad it is FRIDAY. Yea

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:27 pm

I think what Annette might mean is that men might talk a good story, but most times, at least in my limited experience, they never follow through when it’s time to put the wheels in motion. Now for example, take the blogfan who shall remain nameless, (I feel like I’m talking about Lord Voldemort here) I would be very interested to know if that was a man or women who made that comment. Because it would prove a point. I could provide other examples, if that one falls through!

I also think Annette was saying men typically need to put their money where their mouths are. I hope that was said politely enough.

Ron // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:44 pm

Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Men are all mouth no action.

Hmm. Don’t know how to interpret that one.

Give me an assignment Joe.

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:46 pm

You know, come to think of it, Annette is right. This topic is better left alone. There are too many women around here and we could get into some serious men-bashing. Not good.

We can talk about the positive things men do!

Pamela // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:51 pm

Like the hulking Dr. Phil says on the teevee….”give a man an action verb and he’s off to the races!” Or he’s on the Internet gambling…with a beer in one hand and… (I said that) Anyway, I have found in my limited ‘Net experience that men will answer e-mails in four words or less so this blogging thingee is a challenge for men who are perpetually challenged to express themselves in a user frinedly way. Oops, sorry, did that sound cynical? or even sexist?

Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 3:42 pm

Thanks MD. Mama, like the way you said that.
Right on Pamela
Ron- don’t ask

KHarris1970 // Oct 5, 2007 at 4:10 pm

“I have found in my limited ‘Net experience that men will answer e-mails in four words or less”

I resent that remark.

Pamela // Oct 5, 2007 at 4:24 pm

See there, four words…..go ahead and prove me wrong. I will be pleasantly surprised.

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 5:17 pm

Joe, we need a spot for people to vote regarding the First Annual Cuppa Joe Beer Fest. The thread “Blogfan…” wiil not except any more comments. Do you do that on purpose? Or do we need techincal support?

ANDREW!!!!!!!

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 5:20 pm

I meant to say “will not accept”. Man, I’m having issues spelling.

Pamela // Oct 5, 2007 at 5:23 pm

“ANDREW!!!!! We hate to admit it, but we need a guy! To help with this blogger stuff, I mean.

Joe // Oct 5, 2007 at 5:24 pm

I decided to delete that item because I thought my part of it crossed the line a little bit, i.e., the blog item itself.

No problem with the idea of people meeting socially so long as none of us actively promotes the drinking of alcohol — I’m thinking like a lawyer here.

No problem, either, with trying to come up with a worthy endeavor we can contribute our efforts to.

I’ve deleted some responses over time, and lately a couple have been hostile to other participants.

I allowed one today that Pamela responded to adroitly, but I’d rather we not become crass — my bad — or vicious, as happens on many blogs.

Am I raining on the parade? I hope not. This has been great sport overall.

Pamela // Oct 5, 2007 at 5:38 pm

So that’s why the guys have quit stopping by….nowhere to sign up for the beer fest?
I thought KHarris1970’s remark in four words was really funny. We are all adults here, I’m guessing, actually,….but hopeful that some charitable gathering with liquid refreshment would be pleasant and not end in a bar brawl or a set-to over something someone said to get a laugh on a blog site. Ever hopeful, she said, smiling.

MK // Oct 5, 2007 at 6:22 pm

How ’bout gathering at MMC&T for a cuppa joe?

Place an empty coffee urn to be filled by all the generous folks who show up, and donate the proceeds to some worthy cause, like funding for The Arts in public schools….just a liberal thought on the libations issue.

Laura // Oct 5, 2007 at 8:45 pm

“Am I raining on the parade? I hope not.” Not at all, Joe. The quasi-anonymity of the Internet tends to make the self-censoring mechanisms most people have dissolve, or at least lose their efficacy. Lord knows, I’ve been known to “say” things online that I would never dream of uttering out loud (not here, I hope, though the first comment I ever made here was a bit… strident.) In any event, it’s your blog and thus yours to moderate as you see fit. The constitutional right to free speech doesn’t apply in a private forum.

Mary in C'burg // Oct 5, 2007 at 9:55 pm

This whole beer fest thing is my fault to begin with. Again, the whole stream of consciousness thing led to the suggestion…. beer talk + diversity of preferences = suggestion to sample everyone’s preferences as a route for socialization. This is already an enjoyable route for socialization and opinion sharing - - even though it isn’t face to face interaction in the classic sense. I’d be perfectly happy to sample Harp beer on my own and assemble with those interested in volunteering as a group. I’d be just as happy with a hot fudge sundae at Brewsters, Joe. Which reminds me of something my Daddy says… “There’s no such thing as a short beer or a small bowl of ice cream.”

Ron // Oct 5, 2007 at 10:57 pm

Md. Mama // Oct 5, 2007 at 2:46 pm
There are too many women around here and we could get into some serious men-bashing. Not good.
We can talk about the positive things men do!

MM, these are all great women and we have no worries with regard to men bashing since we do operate in the positive realm.
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Annette // Oct 5, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Thanks MD. Mama, like the way you said that.
Right on Pamela. Ron- don’t ask.

The blogging thing is not challenging for us. I for one am rather brief in my e-mails as well. Men just express themselves better in a face to face setting.

Katherine // Oct 6, 2007 at 5:18 am

No kiddin Ron, ya think?

I would like to talk about more positive things too.. something other than men-bashing. There are so many good people in this world & alot don’t even touch the computer unless it’s for work.
And I haven’t had the experience of on line talking or chatting with ‘men only’..just friends. I seem to be very new at this even tho my voice (typing) has been very well seen around here.

MdM and so many others,well everyone.
I’m So looking forward to meeting you at the ‘men feast’… oops, I meant to say ‘beer fest’ & yes, that includes you too Ron ~

Md. Mama // Oct 6, 2007 at 8:29 am

Sorry if things got out of hand. Being a social person I naturally thought it would be fun…but I totally agree with Laura and Mary.

Joe // Oct 6, 2007 at 9:30 am

Hey, it was my doing. I think getting together would/will be fun.

Pamela // Oct 6, 2007 at 12:24 pm

I really like the idea of meeting for a cuppa joe…at Coda, since that is The Joe’s fave place.
The atmosphere is nice and will get men and women to come. I want to clarify my comments….I’ve used extreme language here (and in daily life) to make a point, entertain others and amuse myself.
I think that’s what this blog has been…a place to compare and contrast attitudes, opinions, and need I say, biases? That’s the fun of it! Please continue, JK, I’m enjoying this ever so much….

Joe // Oct 6, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Coda has beer and wine, too, plus desserts and, several nights per week, music (which could interfere with conversation.
Full disclosure: The owners, the Buckleys, are acquainted through our kids, who went to HVHS together. Which makes it even better, in my view.

Ron // Oct 6, 2007 at 3:14 pm

Ah, Katherine is so kind.

Mary in C'burg // Oct 6, 2007 at 4:26 pm

Then Coda it is?

Katherine // Oct 6, 2007 at 11:00 pm

I’ll take that as a compliment Ron, thank you.

LOL KH, hmm .. ‘I resent that remark’ equals a total of : whadayaknow, Four Words! Just couldn’t resist as usual but it was funny.

Where on God’s earth is Coda? Never even heard of it.. Grandin Village by any chance?

KHarris1970 // Oct 7, 2007 at 12:36 am

Hehehe…I’m glad my previous post was seen for the cheekiness that was intended. I will try to buck the male trend toward passivity by posting here as often as possible. Keep in mind that I am a natural smart-aleck, so many of my responses will contain attempts at humor.

Ron // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:04 pm

A compliment indeed Katherine. You are quite welcome.

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